Talk:Achievement - Revision history

ValterAlves: /* Achievement vs. Success */

2011-12-30T18:19:49Z

‎Achievement vs. Success

ValterAlves at 14:53, 25 September 2011

2011-09-25T14:53:31Z

ValterAlves at 12:28, 1 July 2011

2011-07-01T12:28:30Z

ValterAlves at 12:28, 1 July 2011

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ValterAlves at 12:27, 1 July 2011

2011-07-01T12:27:52Z

ValterAlves at 12:25, 1 July 2011

2011-07-01T12:25:47Z

ValterAlves: /* Achievement vs. Success */ new section

2011-07-01T12:25:25Z

‎Achievement vs. Success: new section

ValterAlves at 12:13, 1 July 2011

2011-07-01T12:13:16Z

0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1: Created page with "'''Achievement vs. Success''' When refering to the card sometimes users say Success instead of Achievement, mostly when referring to Failure in the same sentence. It seems that S..."

2011-07-01T12:12:11Z

Created page with "'''Achievement vs. Success''' When refering to the card sometimes users say Success instead of Achievement, mostly when referring to Failure in the same sentence. It seems that S..."

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'''Achievement vs. Success'''
When refering to the card sometimes users say Success instead of Achievement, mostly when referring to Failure in the same sentence. It seems that Success would be more catchy because it is the common opposite of Fauilure. Yet, "success" seems to point towards a more definitive sense of achievement, as when a level is finished. It is not so proper to refer to each small positive reinforcement such as picking coins in Super Mario or rings in Sonic.
So we still believe Achievement is a better name.
Nevertheless, for the sake of usability, we are including a page called Success that redirects to Achievement. That does not have parallel in terms of the cards, naturally.
[[Special:Contributions/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1|0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]] 13:12, 1 July 2011 (WEST)

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 == Achievement vs. Success ==
-When refering to this card in a same context where Failure is also being referred, people sometimes say 'Success' instead of 'Achievement'. It such context it seems that 'Success' would feel more natural because it is the common opposite of 'Failure'. Yet:
+When refering to this card in a same context where Failure is also being referred, people sometimes say 'Success' instead of 'Achievement'. In such context it seems that 'Success' would feel more natural because it is the common opposite of 'Failure'. Yet:
 * The term 'success' points towards a more definitive perception of achievement, as when a game level is finished. It is not so interesting to refer to each small positive reinforcement such as picking coins in Super Mario or rings in Sonic.
 * There is no reason for the patterns Achievement and Failure to be seen as opposite, although they may act close to that in many games.
 So, we still believe 'Achievement' is a better name. Nevertheless, for the sake of usability, here in the site we are including a page called Success that redirects to Achievement.<br />[[User:ValterAlves|ValterAlves]] [pre-release]

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 * The term 'success' points towards a more definitive perception of achievement, as when a game level is finished. It is not so interesting to refer to each small positive reinforcement such as picking coins in Super Mario or rings in Sonic.
 * There is no reason for the patterns Achievement and Failure to be seen as opposite, although they may act close to that in many games.
-So, we still believe 'Achievement' is a better name. Nevertheless, for the sake of usability, here in the site we are including a page called Success that redirects to Achievement.
+So, we still believe 'Achievement' is a better name. Nevertheless, for the sake of usability, here in the site we are including a page called Success that redirects to Achievement.<br />[[User:ValterAlves|ValterAlves]] [pre-release]
-[[User:ValterAlves|ValterAlves]] 13:25, 1 July 2011 (WEST)

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 * The term 'success' points towards a more definitive perception of achievement, as when a game level is finished. It is not so interesting to refer to each small positive reinforcement such as picking coins in Super Mario or rings in Sonic.
 * There is no reason for the patterns Achievement and Failure to be seen as opposite, although they may act close to that in many games.
-So, we still believe 'Achievement' is a better name. Nevertheless, for the sake of usability, we are including a page called Success that redirects to Achievement.
+So, we still believe 'Achievement' is a better name. Nevertheless, for the sake of usability, here in the site we are including a page called Success that redirects to Achievement.
 [[User:ValterAlves|ValterAlves]] 13:25, 1 July 2011 (WEST)

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 * The term 'success' points towards a more definitive perception of achievement, as when a game level is finished. It is not so interesting to refer to each small positive reinforcement such as picking coins in Super Mario or rings in Sonic.
 * There is no reason for the patterns Achievement and Failure to be seen as opposite, although they may act close to that in many games.
-So we still believe 'Achievement' is a better name. Nevertheless, for the sake of usability, we are including a page called Success that redirects to Achievement.
+So, we still believe 'Achievement' is a better name. Nevertheless, for the sake of usability, we are including a page called Success that redirects to Achievement.
 [[User:ValterAlves|ValterAlves]] 13:25, 1 July 2011 (WEST)

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 == Achievement vs. Success ==
-When refering to this card in a same context where 'Failure' is also being referred, people sometimes say 'Success' instead of 'Achievement'. It such context it seems that Success would feel more natural because it is the common opposite of Failure. Yet:
+When refering to this card in a same context where Failure is also being referred, people sometimes say 'Success' instead of 'Achievement'. It such context it seems that 'Success' would feel more natural because it is the common opposite of 'Failure'. Yet:
-* the term 'success' points towards a more definitive perception of achievement, as when a game level is finished. It is not so interesting to refer to each small positive reinforcement such as picking coins in Super Mario or rings in Sonic.
+* The term 'success' points towards a more definitive perception of achievement, as when a game level is finished. It is not so interesting to refer to each small positive reinforcement such as picking coins in Super Mario or rings in Sonic.
-* There is no reason for this card ('Achievement') and 'Failure' to be seen as 'opposite', although they may act as such in many games.
+* There is no reason for the patterns Achievement and Failure to be seen as opposite, although they may act close to that in many games.
 So we still believe 'Achievement' is a better name. Nevertheless, for the sake of usability, we are including a page called Success that redirects to Achievement.
 [[User:ValterAlves|ValterAlves]] 13:25, 1 July 2011 (WEST)

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−	When refering to the card sometimes users say Success instead of Achievement, mostly when referring to Failure in the same sentence. It seems that Success would be more catchy because it is the common opposite of Fauilure. Yet, "success" seems to point towards a more definitive sense of achievement, as when a level is finished. It is not so proper to refer to each small positive reinforcement such as picking coins in Super Mario or rings in Sonic.
−	~~So we still believe Achievement is a better name.~~
−	~~Nevertheless, for the sake of usability, we are including a page called Success that redirects to Achievement. That does not have parallel in terms of the cards, naturally.~~
−	~~[[User:ValterAlves\|ValterAlves]] 13:13, 1 July 2011 (WEST)~~

	== Achievement vs. Success ==		== Achievement vs. Success ==

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	Nevertheless, for the sake of usability, we are including a page called Success that redirects to Achievement. That does not have parallel in terms of the cards, naturally.		Nevertheless, for the sake of usability, we are including a page called Success that redirects to Achievement. That does not have parallel in terms of the cards, naturally.
	[[User:ValterAlves\|ValterAlves]] 13:13, 1 July 2011 (WEST)		[[User:ValterAlves\|ValterAlves]] 13:13, 1 July 2011 (WEST)
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		+	== Achievement vs. Success ==
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		+	When refering to this card in a same context where 'Failure' is also being referred, people sometimes say 'Success' instead of 'Achievement'. It such context it seems that Success would feel more natural because it is the common opposite of Failure. Yet:
		+	* the term 'success' points towards a more definitive perception of achievement, as when a game level is finished. It is not so interesting to refer to each small positive reinforcement such as picking coins in Super Mario or rings in Sonic.
		+	* There is no reason for this card ('Achievement') and 'Failure' to be seen as 'opposite', although they may act as such in many games.
		+	So we still believe 'Achievement' is a better name. Nevertheless, for the sake of usability, we are including a page called Success that redirects to Achievement.
		+	[[User:ValterAlves\|ValterAlves]] 13:25, 1 July 2011 (WEST)

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 So we still believe Achievement is a better name.
 Nevertheless, for the sake of usability, we are including a page called Success that redirects to Achievement. That does not have parallel in terms of the cards, naturally.
-[[Special:Contributions/0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1|0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]] 13:12, 1 July 2011 (WEST)
+[[User:ValterAlves|ValterAlves]] 13:13, 1 July 2011 (WEST)